PIX 2015
Previous page Next page

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review

November 2014 | By Richard Butler and Jeff Keller


Review based on production Panasonic LX100

Some of the most beloved premium compact cameras in the last decade are Panasonic's LX-series. They always offered larger-than-average sensors but, from the LX3 onwards, the big draw of those cameras has been their fast lenses. The last LX model was the Lumix DMC-LX7, introduced back in fall of 2012. Since then, LX-series enthusiasts have been chomping at the bit for something new.

Given the rise of cameras with 1"-type sensors from the likes of Sony, Samsung, and now Canon, LX-series enthusiasts were hoping for the same in the next model. Well, we've got bad news for you: the new Lumix DMC-LX100 doesn't have one. Instead, Panasonic has somehow managed to squeeze in a Four Thirds sensor, whose area is twice as large as a 1" sensor and five times bigger than the 1/1.7" sensor in the LX7.

There is a caveat here, which is that the LX100 isn't actually using the entire sensor, instead cropping it to allow for multi-aspect shooting (just as its predecessor did). Thus, the effective sensor area on the LX100 is really 1.5X larger than 1" and 4.3X the size of 1/1.7". In our experience, the added creative encouragement offered by the multi-aspect approach, combined with a conveniently-placed aspect ratio switch is more valuable than the extra couple of megapixels and larger lens that a full-sensor design would require.

4:3
3:2
16:9
1:1
The hallmark feature of the LX100 is its Four Thirds sensor which, as we mentioned, is significantly larger than any other zoom compact save for the PowerShot G1 X II and its predecessor. If Panasonic used the entire 16 megapixel Four Thirds sensor it would be twice the size of the 1" sensors found on the likes of the Canon PowerShot G7 X and Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100, but the camera's multi-aspect ratio requires a crop, so the difference is actually 1.5X. Even so, that's a considerable advantage, especially when combined with the LX100's fast lens.

Another big feature on the LX100 is its lens, which has a maximum aperture range of F1.7-2.8 and an effective focal range of 24-75mm. When you combine the fast lens and large sensor the LX100 ends up being a pretty impressive camera for those who like shallow depth-of-field. And should also mean greatly improved low light shooting.

This graph plots the equivalent focal lengths and apertures of the LX100 against its immediate rivals. That is, it compares the zoom range and apertures on a common basis. Lower down the diagram is better, all else being equal.

So, while the LX100 is a considerably larger camera than its predecessors, its larger sensor means it promises to be a more capable one. Whereas the LX3 competed with the Canon PowerShot G10's 1/1.7" sensor, the LX100 looks ready to trade blows with the PowerShot G1 X II. The level of direct control is increased, in proportion to its greater ambitions; with dedicated aperture, shutter speed and exposure compensation dials.

The styling of the LX100 is also significantly different from previous LX models, borrowing much more from Panasonic's DMC-L1 DSLR and LC1 high-end compact than from the LX series. The result is a bigger camera but also a considerably more serious one, and one that's pretty good looking.

Panasonic LX100 key features

  • 16MP Four Thirds CMOS sensor (Up to 12.7MP used)
  • 24-75mm equiv. F1.7-2.8 lens
  • Multi-aspect feature maintains diagonal angle-of-view at 4:3, 3:2, and 16:9
  • Venus Engine from DMC-GH4 and DMC-FZ1000
  • XGA-resolution electronic viewfinder (1024 x768 pixels)
  • Aperture and control dials around lens, shutter speed dial on top plate
  • 3" 921k dot LCD
  • 11 fps continuous shooting (6.5 with C-AF)
  • 4K video recording at 30p and 24, Full HD at up to 60p
  • In-camera Raw conversion
  • Wi-Fi with NFC

As you can see, that's a pretty extensive list but, as it turns out, it's only a list of the headline specifications of the camera. The LX100 also includes a time-lapse function, the ability to create in-camera stop motion videos and a host of other specialist features. We cover as many of these as is practical in our full review, but aren't able to go into depth about everything.

Those who enjoy Panasonic's Creative Effects can now use them in A/S/M mode. A new timed exposure is essentially a bulb mode where you choose how long the exposure is. In addition to 4K video, the LX100 also has a 4K Photo mode, which lets you use the aspect ratio of your choice. The camera also offers an electronic shutter option for silent shooting.

One trade-off that comes from the addition of an EVF is the loss of the flash. Panasonic includes a clip-on compact external flash in the box that has a guide number of 7m at ISO 100. The in-lens shutter on the camera can sync with the flash all the way up to its 1/4000th of a second upper limit. The electronic shutter that extends beyond that cannot be used with flash.

Specs compared

 
Lumix DMC-LX7
Lumix DMC-LX100
PowerShot G1 X II
Sensor type
(Area of 4:3 crop)
1/1.7"
(35mm2)
4/3"
(180 mm2)
1.5"
(239 mm2)
Effective resolution
9.9MP
12.7MP
12.9MP
Focal length (35mm equiv).
24-90m
24-75mm
24-120mm
Max aperture
F1.4 - F2.3
F1.7 - F2.8
F2.0 - F3.9
Multi-aspect
Yes (4:3, 3:2, 16:9, 1:1)*
Yes (4:3, 3:2)
Minimum focus distance
1cm - 30cm
3cm - 30cm
5cm-40cm
ISO range (fully expanded)
80 - 12800 **
100 - 25600
100 - 12800
Viewfinder
Optional 1.44m dot EVF
Built-in 2.76m dot equiv EVF, optional OVF
Optional EVF 2.76M dot EVF
Display
3" LCD (920k dot)
3" LCD (920k dot)
3" LCD (1.04m dot) touch screen
Burst rates (S-AF, C-AF)
11 fps, 5 fps
11 fps, 6.5 fps
5.2 fps, 3.0 fps
Video
1080p/60
4K/30p, 1080p/60
1080p/30
External controls
Aperture
Aperture, focus, shutter speed, exposure comp
Lens control dial and rear-plate thumb dial
Built-in flash
Yes
No (external included)
Yes
Wi-Fi
No
Yes (with NFC)
Yes (with NFC)
Battery life (CIPA)
330 shots
300 shots
240 shots
Weight (Inc. battery)
298g
393g
553g
Dimensions
111 x 67 x 46mm
115 x 66 x 55mm
116 x 74 x 66mm

* Different angle of view offered in 1:1 shooting
** Highest ISO images only at reduced resolution

The impressive thing to note is how much smaller and lighter the LX100 is than the G1 X II and that it's not dramatically larger than the LX7. It's enough of the difference that the LX100 will probably have to go in a coat pocket or the corner of a bag, but it's still a lot smaller than a comparable interchangeable lens camera.

Kit options and accessories

The LX100 has a list price of $899/. This is $100 more than the Canon G1 X II's launch price, but the LX100 includes a built-in viewfinder, as well as 4K video capture, both of which the Canon lacks.

A cool accessory that Panasonic will be offering is the auto lens cap you see above. We've seen this sort of lens protector from Ricoh and Olympus before, but we still think they're fun.

Updates to review:

Sept 15, 2014: Introduction, Specs, Body, and First Impressions pages published
Oct 6, 2014: Samples gallery added
Oct 29, 2014: Controls, Shooting Experience & Studio pages added. First Impressions deprecated.
Nov 18, 2014: Introduction re-worked, Lens, Features, Image Quality, Dynamic Range and Conclusion pages published

Panasonic discusses LX100 at Photokina 2014:


Huge thanks to Kenmore Camera for their assistance with this review.

If you're new to digital photography you may wish to read the Digital Photography Glossary before diving into this article (it may help you understand some of the terms used).

Conclusion / Recommendation / Ratings are based on the opinion of the reviewer, you should read the ENTIRE review before coming to your own conclusions.

We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X, Y, and Z and ideally A, B, and C.

This article is Copyright 1998 - 2015 and may NOT in part or in whole be reproduced in any electronic or printed medium without prior permission from the author.

Previous page Next page
306
I own it
545
I want it
86
I had it
Discuss in the forums

Comments

Total comments: 951
12345
pblasi

A great camera. The only concern I have is pink/purple lips issue.

0 upvotes
Alnaar

I'm thinking about picking up one of these as a concert camera since it is not a 'pro' camera and has a fixed lens. I usually take my X100S and a Canon G15. Has anyone used this in that capacity?
Thanks

0 upvotes
brownie314

Since this camera is not using the full m4/3 sensor - I wonder how close this sensor is in actual area to the 1" sensors. m4/3 was already kind of close in size to 1".

0 upvotes
Zayne

Its about 1.33"

0 upvotes
Michellel

I got this camera in Nov. First it was broken with "Focus Error" when lens is not working in May, took me 3 weeks to fix it under the warranty. When I got it back, invoice said lens was changed. In 1.5 month I got the same "Focus Error" and have to ship it back for repair.:(((( I can't rely on this camera anymore, and don't know what to do. It's not like $200 camera...:((( Very disappointed!

1 upvote
Finnair

How about makro on this Lumix camera?

0 upvotes
rileyrg

Having finally remembered to turn Silent Mode off I can now use the flash in programmable modes but not in iA mode.for quick snaps. Why is this? About the only time I would use a flash indoors is when I cant be bothered to mess manually with aperture and speed etc. Quick party snaps. Please tell me its possible! EDIT : oh, silent mode wasnt off in iA mode : only in programmable mode. Now it is it works. Ignore!

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 4 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
gftphoto

For a while I have been lurking around trying to find my ideal compact camera. As I see it, the LX100 is right up there with the new Sony RX100 IV, but lacks a feature which I find important, namely, built-in flash. This type of camera lends itself to the sort of photography where fill flash is frequently called for, and is a feature I used quite a lot back in film days (revealing my age I suppose).

0 upvotes
rileyrg

Well, tge great majority of the time I never have to use a flash as its low light performance is great. That said Im currently awaiting a Q regarding why flash doesnt appear to work in fully automatic mode.

0 upvotes
Garrison0111

I have the lx100 for about a month. Basically I love it.
But I have some questions about it, when I am in manual model, which means I set the aperture and the shutter speed, but when I half-press the shutter button, the camera will still change the shutter speed for me. it's annoying but I think maybe I did something in settings.

and one more thing is, the machine will get hot for some time of using. Is it normal?

0 upvotes
SSantana75

are you sure you don't have it stuck on iA mode?

it's not normal fo rit to get hot, have it looked at.

0 upvotes
photog22740

Not that there's a firmware update out yet (?), but for the life of me I can't find out how to go about it once there is. Don't see anything in the manual or online. Any insight would be most appreciated.

0 upvotes
Andy2607

Yes the silver version looks great! I've been out with the LX100 a few times since my last comments on here. The camera is an absolute pleasure to use. It's solid but much lighter than carrying a DSLR around as I don't need to change lenses. The 24-75mm range of the LX100's lens covers all my needs. I've seen comments & reviews saying the zoom range is a bit small, but that's very much a personal thing. The 24mm wide end is far more valuable to me than say, a 28mm wide end which is typical of a DSLR kit lens.

I've currently got the camera to shoot both RAW & JPEG. It's good to be able to compare both. Some reviews have been critical of the JPEGS but I think they are pretty good. It goes without saying of course, that RAW images processed in Lightroom are producing superior pictures as there is more latitude and more detail can be brought out of the highlights & shadows.
I've owned numerous DSLRs & premium compacts, but the Lumix LX100 is definitely the most intuitive & fun camera!

3 upvotes
Drewpy

I have the silver also and love it. I find it so easy to use, easier than my E-M5 in fact. I love using the Aperture ring, makes me think every time I take a shot. The EV ring is easy to use as well. The Program Mode works extremely well, better than my Oly. The focusing is probably one of the best features. I use the Pinpoint most of the time, it's very quick and you can actually see that things are in focus. With my Oly, even with Manual Focus Assist, I had trouble seeing if anything was in focus for real. I don't really shoot movies, so can't comment on that. All I can say is, this is one of the most 'fun' and well made cameras I've ever used.

0 upvotes
Andy2607

My Silver LX100 has arrived today & I can't wait to get out to use it! First impressions are solid build, feels good & inspires confidence to hold, lots of external controls, very fast lens, and as an added bonus it looks great!
I've had DSLRs, great pictures but are too bulky for me to be bothered with carrying round all day and I don't need to change lenses. I've had various compacts but only the Fuji X20 had a viewfinder, which was a bit on the small side and the sensor was still quite small. Finally, after all these years, if the image quality is as good as DP Review state, this would appear to be my dream camera!!

I live in the UK, and the current cheapest UK dealer price for the LX100 is £599 (922 US dollars). Through ebay I settled on a Hong Kong dealer with lots of positive reviews and got the LX100 for £465 (716 US dollars). No import taxes. I'm very pleased with it!!

I will update when I have had some use of the camera, I've got to go now and take pictures!!

2 upvotes
PhotoVideoNeeds

I have owned the LX7, and love it but hit the wall on my needs. I have sworn to make a significant jump with my next purchase. I have two questions for the group:

STILLS: how large would you dare blow up a still from this camera to be gallery worthy? I took my files from the LX7 to Duggal and the printer advised "not larger than 20 inches." I need bigger. Is the LX100 an improvement on that? Or is it only a jump to say, the Sony a7r, with its 36mp the way to go big?

VIDEO: How does the LX100 's 4k res video shooting compare to 4k on the Sony a7s? I hear the LX100 will record internally, whereas the Sony does not. But my bigger question is - does the Lumix look crappier with its m43 sensor, rather than full? Or will it integrate into professional (Alexa) footage like the Sony a7s does?

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
0 upvotes
Sbona

I've bought a LX100 in Bangkok. The problem is that 4K videos are recorded at 25 or 24 frames per second. Ok, I can use 24FPS, as there is no big differences (I hope so). But in 1080p it gets maximum of 50 FPS instead of 60 FPS that my other cameras and camcorders are able to produce. Is there any way to change specs to USA one? Any firmware? Thanks.

0 upvotes
bootsofspanishleather

Unless size is the issue, I disagree. Although slightly bigger and for me requires the LVF2, I think the GX1 has several advantages. One is that the GX1 is capable of using my three different lenses, including the Summilux Leica 25mm. I prefer it's LVF 2 to the LX100's eye level overall and diopter the adjustment let me down. What I decided after returning the LX100 is that I want the best of both worlds Size and feel and something able to deliver a higher res. I don't know it is already here and if not hopefully it will land soon.

0 upvotes
fotoinga

After many years of photography under my belt … I decided to add a smaller (which seemed like an excellent choice) camera to my professional collection … A new Panasonic Lumix DMC LX100 ..
Was really looking forward to this new compact camera .. something that I could carry easily & not be so obvious with my intentions ..
Now I find myself really disappointed that Panasonic's Instruction CD does not cover Apple Computer processing … This should have been disclosed ..
After trying several downloads I still came up with a big ZERO … to process my RAW images …
I did telephone Panasonic Customer Support twice & the 2nd time they just cut me off … I sure could use a magic solution … Most disappointed … inga ...

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
1 upvote
srados

Why not getting 10$ card reader.I have never ever downloaded images from my camera connected to comp.

4 upvotes
babola

@srados

Ditto.

0 upvotes
Andy2607

Have you thought about using Adobe Lightroom 5.7.1? This has full support for the LX100 including RAW processing. I picked up a licence off e bay covering 2 PCS Windows or MAC for £29 / $44. Then I downloaded from Adobe where you get to choose the windows or Mac version. It's a great piece of software. I've tried the Panasonic software that came with the camera, I just don't find it user friendly at all, not intuitive like Lightroom is. So you haven't really missed much by not being able to install the Panasonic software, try using the Panasonic disc as a frisby, it's more useful !!!

0 upvotes
Vince P

I can't work out why you would need to change the lens on a DSLR if 24-70 is enough zoom range for you?

0 upvotes
Timmbits

@DPR

"Specs Compared"
"Lumix DMC-LX7 Lumix DMC-LX100 PowerShot G1Xii"

When space is limited, I do not understand why the LX7 is on that table, and not the G7X. The surpassed LX7 is completely eclipsed by the 3 others and is irrelevant in that context.
I'm quite certain that most readers would prefer the inclusion of the G7X on that table, if you had to choose only 3.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 9 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
lem12

Very capable development, great features and compact for landscape photography.
Would be nice to have a WB filter and simple in-camera setup for it. Clip on lens/clip on lens cap or remove it.

0 upvotes
mpgxsvcd

Just curious why the Panasonic LX100 and the Sony RX100 MK III are not listed in the same category as this camera. In fact I can’t find those cameras at all even when I check the “include all categories” box.

If this camera is in the Premium Enthusiast category what category are the LX100 and R100 MK III in?

1 upvote
mpgxsvcd

I guess I found the answer to my question. The LX100 and RX100 MK III are in the “Enthusiast Large Sensor Compact Camera” category. That actually makes sense because the small sensor is the biggest drawback for the X30.

1 upvote
DGuerra

It would be interesting to know why 1:1 is just a crop of 4:3, instead of taking advantage of the full sensor height. Well, even the full width isn't used by any of the formats, but there is still a lot more unused height.

0 upvotes
moe lem

It can only be to save power within the ccd design.

0 upvotes
Pagey68

Hi out there, I need some help please..... I need to buy a video camera for my employment in Australia, My budget is $1,000 and I take short videos 3 - 5 minutes of Dental work being completed, so I am needing good quality videos with crisp colors which will be shot at close range approx 30cms away from the camera. I have been recommended the Panasonic LX100 and I am interested in your thoughts. Would this give me fantastic bright crisp videos on the computer?

1 upvote
wild ta

Does anyone know why this review is missing the "Performance" section? I'm curious to know the time it takes from off to capture mode. The RX-100 III takes 1.6 seconds, the II took 2.2 seconds! The best Canon P&S takes 1.3 seconds.

Anyone know how long this one takes? I have some young kids so this is an important feature for me.

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
1 upvote
armandino

I tried it at the store and I fell in love with its mechanical feel and traditional controls, and the optics!
However considering the price it should offer higher resolution and/or better IQ. I am not particularly fond of the way the EVF is implemented. I ended up buying and A6000, I think for the money offers a lot more. And the controls are still a pleasure to use. Ideally I would have wanted this camera with the sensor and the features (AF, fps etc) of the A6000.
Oh well, I guess time for shopping for metabones and keeping my finger crossed that Sony at some point will release a decent competitor to the Canon M lens 22mm/2.0

Comment edited 42 seconds after posting
1 upvote
brownie314

Yup - that canon 22/2 is the only reason I bought an eos-m. The eos-m body and controls are a disaster - but that 22/2 is a dream.

3 upvotes
armandino

and inexpensive too!

0 upvotes
brownie314

Yes, it is. Every manufacturer should have a 22/2 this good. Nikon - are you listening!?! Oh, nevermind - Nikon refuses to make any more DX primes.

1 upvote
abc386

Or better still, the Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM

0 upvotes
moe lem

This camera is more about low light quality and video quality than high resolution. The low res large sensor is ideal for this. If you want high res and low light you need to get a bigger camera.

1 upvote
armandino

@ moe,
agreed, but at this price point I expect a better performer all around. A6000 is less then 2/3 of the price with the kit lens. This camera is not a lowlight and 4K video monster like the A7s, so I would rather get a bit more resolution and be able to crop without resampling on a 4K screen. Not to mention that you can stick a much faster lens in front of the A6000 if you want. I got my metabones and I got to say coupled with my Sigma 18-35/1.8 ant it is pretty cool although not compact :-P

Comment edited 4 times, last edit 11 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
Lassoni

This camera were better if its IQ were closer to Samsung NX500 or something. Of course there's size difference, but the image quality of this camera is not "there" yet.

NX500 would also be better if it had the VF...

0 upvotes
Shomari

A nice review. However I just don't see the image quality that warrants the rating you gave the Panasonic LX100.
As a general comment to the images that DPReview are taking and using for their camera reviews and though your models are always nice looking, it would be very helpful if you would include models with darker skin tones to give us a better idea of a camera systems' metering of those tones. It would be VERY helpful.

Thank You and Regards,

3 upvotes
sammysight

Not as sharp a photo as the Leica name would suggest. My Canon G10 takes as good a picture, and that is an old camera

0 upvotes
Paul JM

You must be joking. I also have a g10 and its sensor is not nearly as good as even the first iteration of MFT sensors. Nice images at ISO 100 in good light, but at anything above base ISO the G10 very quickly fell apart.

7 upvotes
mainzerphoto
0 upvotes
Oh Really

Canon G10 is garbage compared to an LX5 let alone an LX100

I had them both kept the LX sold the g10

4 upvotes
Michael She

Almost a winner ... no built in flash is a killer for me.

I have the LX-7, one thing I don't understand is why the buttons on the lens barrel are so easy to move - Panasonic should introduce switches that "lock" in place so they're not bumped to the wrong setting so easily.

6 upvotes
Glen K Wells

Hi
Nice to see that some other people think that as well. I made that comment early on and it provoked mixed responses.
On an enthusiast camera such as this fill flash can be very useful.

3 upvotes
Randy Benter

I agree the lack of built-in flash is a big miss. The leaf shutter is perfect for high-speed sync and daylight fill-flash, but I fear many will miss this opportunity because they won't have the flash attached. I just ordered this camera to see how I get along with keeping the flash attached at all times, but I am afraid it will make the camera unnecessarily bulky. I am glad I waited a while as the current price of $750 seems more reasonable for this camera than the $900 paid by early-adopters.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
3 upvotes
Ed Gill

Curious if the Olympus clip-on flashes would work (should since they share a standard interface). Might be more versatile than the one Panasonic provides. I also concur with the usefulness of the high speed sync. I use my LX5 for outdoor portraits with fill at mid-day in the Southwest, off camera radio triggered. As long as it has a hot shoe and leaf shutter it's good to go. 24 to 90mm equiv. (like the LX 5/7) on the lens would have been nice.

0 upvotes
jcburke

Not just the missing flash. I also own the LX7 and it is the best compact that I've ever had, a perfect blend of good sensor, and wide/fast lens with manual controls. The LX100 takes away flash and slows the lens slightly (the larger sensor is a tradeoff for the lost upper zoom range). I don't blow my pictures up in a major way so the new version just doesn't make enough of an improvement to make it worthwhile. Instead I'll use the money to upgrade my Canon EOS 7D, since I have a deep investment in ultra fast glass for that line of DSLRs.

0 upvotes
Glen K Wells

Hi jcburke, Agree with all your comments. There is always a trade off somewhere. Regards your LX7 when you have a spare few $ or £ have one of your favourite pictures, pref taken in half decent light, taken with the LX7 printed at A2 size. I reckon you may be pleasantly suprised.
Regards
GW

1 upvote
Polandmet

I dont understand BURST speed.
My LX100 have 4 burst modes: L-M-H-SH.
In H-mode Im able to take 80 shoots for ~7 seconds what is 11fps BUT in SH-mode I take 60 photos for around 2 seconds only so WTF ???
I use Sandisk Extreme 16GB
Im happy but want to understand this :)

0 upvotes
Timmbits

I think your SH mode is not at full resolution.

3 upvotes
FrankS009

Find myself more and more looking forward to a LX100 style "GX100" exchangeable lens camera between the GX7 and the GM5 in size.
F.

2 upvotes
disraeli demon

Got a chance to play with one in a shop, and I'm deeply disappointed to discover they've ditched the lovely LX-style distance scale (with proper distance markings and depth of field band) for the useless G-series style one that's just a line with a flower at one end and a mountain on the other. Not sure it's a deal breaker but that was a feature I use all the time for depth focussing on my LX7

1 upvote
VikingPhotographer

Next software update should make it possible to take square 1:1 format with 3456x3456 pixels !

3 upvotes
moe lem

Has anyone found a way to change from recording in PAL to NTSC and back again on the camera?
It seems to lack this simple feature.
I use 25/50/30/60 fps in my work .

0 upvotes
Balletz

How can I find out the remaining time of video recording on my SD Card? t's not displayed, only the remaining photos are displayed. Thanks for help.

0 upvotes
jeffinchiangmai1

Still waiting for my LX100 to arrive. 2nd try now, the first one was lost. Yeah right, but still not arrived.
The reviews I read, in anticipation, seem a little misguided. People are trying to turn the LX100 into something it isn't. I have the E-M5, the LX7 and GM1 (all great cameras in their own right). I took the E-M5 as a second camera with the GM1 on a motorbike tour in Thailand and wished I hadn't. I didn't use it and it only got in the way (too big). The GM1 with the 17mm prime and it's nice little leather case was almost perfect but the light's too bright in Thailand and I need an EVF. The GM5 perhaps? The LX100 wins because of the great lens. It's small, has EVF and great lens all in one. Perfect for my bike trips and I expect to get some pretty good pictures (if it arrives).
If I want to do other stuff, I'll use my other cameras with fixed primes.
That's my point, buy it for what it is and don't criticise too much for what it isn't.

0 upvotes
Lassoni

For me personally, I was kind of hoping the image quality of stills was slightly more? It seems that one can get better stills from a E-M10 kit lens, when it would be cool if they could be atleast the same. I'm no expert, but it seems GH4 serie has disadvantage in still too. Could it be that panasonic's sensors are lacking in stills, whilst oly is much better in stills? I find it rather annoying that there's no "one to go" solution as of yet (samsung is too big/apsc and no viewfinder on their "pocket" models).

2 upvotes
Timmbits

Samsung does not offer a "pocket" model in this category.

APS mirrorless from Samsung (and Sony) compare favorably in size with MFT, but offer a 1 stop advantage over MFT.

However, when comparing this category, you should be comparing LX100, G7X, RX100iii. The LX100 doesn't even use it's whole sensor, so it's not really an MFT.

That's it (for now anyways). Discussion on MFT is under the respective MFT cameras.

1 upvote
jcburke

Jeff, I wonder why you think the LX100 is an improvement over the LX7. For all the reasons you mention (I take motorcycle trips too with my LX7) I love the LX7 and have never been dissapointed. The LX100 is NOT a tradeup in my opinion just because it has a larger sensor, eViewfinder and newer processor. And slower lens and lack of flash just kill the LX100 for me.

0 upvotes
Lassoni

There're ppl who want vfs on cameras (even on compacts). At the end of the day it's preference.

0 upvotes
Seansprague

However, despite my atrocious experience with the LX100 'self destructing' in my jacket pocket while being turned on by mistake, I still think it is a fabulous piece of kit and I am considering buying another one, while being very careful that it does not open inadvertently. Still, I am beginning to read other owners' reviews which mention the noise it makes while zooming in (not out). Nobody else has (dared) mention switching it on in their pocket by mistake and the havoc it creates. Could I be the only one to experience this so far? Look out for other reviewers with the same comments in the near future.

On the positive side, and this is something rarely mentioned in reviews about this camera, despite having no mike socket it does have AUDIO INPUT LEVEL CONTROL (4 settings) which makes it great for videoing very loud music at festivals or night clubs, for instance, without audio distortion. As for not being as small as some cameras, that's actually a plus: its big enough to grip!

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
1 upvote
Timmbits

it is saddening to learn that you feel one must buy two,
just in case one self-destructs.
I was on the fence between the lx100 and the g7x, but
this is definitely an argument in favor of the g7x where one will suffice.

1 upvote
Timmbits

Come to think of it, it would be cheaper to take a piece of plastic tubing, cut off a slice and glue it around the on/off button so you cannot have such an accident again.

1 upvote
Seansprague
0 upvotes
skysi

Don't keep it in your pocket. And if you do, take the battery out.

0 upvotes
Timmbits

mine would definitely go into a pocket. my primary reason for buying one.

0 upvotes
Seansprague

Design fault with LX100...It started when I accidentally 'damaged' the camera in the most surprising way. I reached for it in my jacket pocket and inadvertently switched it on by pushing the on/off switch while it was still in that confined space. The lens proceeded to open with considerable force and pushed up against the immovable side of my pocket, could not open all the way and made a horrible grating sound, perhaps damaging the zooming mechanism. After that it made a noise when zooming in, a noise which was picked up by the microphone when shooting video. This could happen so easily to anyone as it is simple to push the on button by mistake. The camera does not seem able to sense the resistance to the lens opening (as the LX7 does) and carries on trying to fully open regardless and ends up self-destructing! The camera still worked after this mishap, but the zoom mechanism became damaged and noisy. This is one week into owning the camera. I got a full refund.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
3 upvotes
artbarn

I recently bought the LX100 and am really pleased with it.. but can anyone tell me why, when i go into the DRIVE mode selector, my panorama selector is greyed out?

0 upvotes
alffastar

Because you shoot in RAW. Has to be only jpg. I have setup custom 1 for jpg+panorama and custom 2 for jpg+HDR :)

0 upvotes
phonyaccount33

Turn off HDR. I don't know how to turn it on in iAuto though...

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
gmke

Oh yay! I get to be #861. We have been thinking about this camera since September and playing with it quite a lot since it arrived on shelves. Most of the people who ask me in person, what camera to buy, are not likely to spend half-enough money to get this good of a camera. It is one of the few cameras I would heartily recommend without reservation, well deserving of any Camera-Of-The-Year awards it may garner. The design works very well, either as a second or only camera, the latter presumably for the person who wants top shelf pictures with minimal fuss or simple, convenient controls. The ergo values are very high. The only reason I do not have one is happiness with the fast primes that fit on other m43 bodies. I bit the bullet, yes I did. This fixed Leica zoom bests the other biscuit-size zooms by a mile.

0 upvotes
gLOWx

I'm not really convinced.
I don't feel image quality is up to the price and my expectations for an m43 sensor.
I was thinking about it to replace my E-PL5.
But none of those pictures all around the web made me want to sell my E-PL5 with 20mm f1.7 Panasonic ;)
On the other side, 20mm f1.7 is an impressive lens (apart focus speed).
I even find my XZ-2 pictures (up to 400 ISO only) on par with all LX100 samples i seen. And it is not the same year and same sensor size...
Don't know exactly what is the problem (CA, micro contrast, dynamic, optical quality...?), but there is one for sure.
I expected an m43 sensor camera to output much more than a 1/1,7 sensor one.

0 upvotes
zzzxtreme

what do you like better in XZ2 , compared to your PL5+20mm ?
I've tried the XZ2, colours not as nice as fuji, but there's one B&W film simulation mode in XZ2 which I like. but it's very "slow" in the live view screen

0 upvotes
gLOWx

I said i prefer my XZ-2 to LX100, witch is strange comparing sensors.
I prefer my E-PL5 + 20mm to anything i owned so far, even XZ-2 ;)
I keep XZ-2 because it is convenient to cover 28-112mm in a nutshell, and fast use. And as second camera when i don't want to swap lenses outdoor. f1.8 help to keep ISO 100 in almost all situations. And i've got an FL-36 flash for the rest :D
I'm in love with Olympus punch and colors.
Fuji and Oly are very similar in their rendering. A matter of taste and settings.
My next purchase is probably going to be a Fuji ;)

0 upvotes
zzzxtreme

thanks. I'm really torn now lol
X30, EPL+17mm (costs more), XZ2, RX100

0 upvotes
gLOWx

First difficult choice is : interchangeable lens or fixed compact ?
Because (i know it from hard experience) when you start with inter lens...you buy more than expected ;)
I started with two lenses (20mm + 40-150) and i added 14-45 (good kit) and 50mm/1.4 legacy. My bag is full :D
So if you want a "do-it-all in a budget" choice, go compact.
Those compacts are amazing nowadays ;)

Comment edited 32 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
Elvines

Just for those who interested to know, I have both LX100, RX100 III and the A6000.

LX100 with face detection on AF is really quick! Even better than E-M1 + 25mm F1.8. Much quicker than RX100 III and the A6000 with kit lens. It does lock on fairly quick but so often locks on the background.

5 upvotes
jackalopemaui

Why doesn't 1:1 use the full height of the sensor? Why is it just a crop from 4:3?

3 upvotes
Timmbits

I agree.
I suspect that they are simply not sending any power to the top and bottom bands on the chip.
some report that battery autonomy seems to be a problem with this camera, and that would only make it worse.

Comment edited 10 minutes after posting
1 upvote
SSantana75

battery life is fairly standard really, and I find it's fairly good considering there's a large lens to move around.

0 upvotes
Timmbits

I guess it's not that bad... not bad as for the G7X for example.
My comment was influenced by some feedback from others, that it isn't as good as claimed.

0 upvotes
dagobah

This multi-aspect ratio thing is all about making the camera less expensive to manufacture. Otherwise they would be using a true 225mm2 4/3 format, rather than the 180mm2 you get with this camera. If Panny can throw away parts of the sensor output, it can use sensors with defects in those zones, as well as lenses with poor quality in those regions or poor design quality. Corners are particularly bad on typical sensors (not to mention vignetting of most lenses), so Panny completely avoids the corners.

If they extended 1:1 to the edge, it would be the ONLY aspect ratio that used the top and bottom bands of the sensor. It's not a format used often anyway, so it's not worth it to require sensor and optical system performance in zones hardly ever used. As it is, Panny only has to require good QA in the zones of the sensor and optical system that are actually in the imaging areas.

0 upvotes
SSantana75

huh? I'm fairly sure the aspect ratio is related to the size of the lens as it would take a far larger lens to cover the entire area of the sensor while maintaining the same aperture/focal-length range. The problem with softness and other optical issues are entirely related to optics, i.e. the lens and not at all related to the sensor. A pixel is a pixel and functions exactly the same way wether it's in the middle of a sensor or close to one of the corners.

4 upvotes
Seansprague

intelligent comment, unlike others...

1 upvote
dagobah

SSantana75, you're partially right, but not about the 1:1 aspect ratio issue. If you look at the diagram, 1:1 aspect ratio should be able to use significantly more of the sensor yet still be within the lens image circle. Extending the green square into the gray bands (in the diagram) would use the same size lens system. I suspect that Panny does not read out those portions of the sensor because they would be rarely used in most cases, and it makes it cheaper to produce the camera by not requiring that imaging area to be usable.

1 upvote
Seansprague

OK, that's a smarter explanation. Nothing wrong with the corners of sensors as you suggested in earlier post. I too would have liked a square image with more pixels, just like a 6x6 camera of old.

1 upvote
SSantana75

I'd say yes, they could have definitely used more of the sensor for the 1:1 ratio but that is a totally different issue to the matter at hand and your assumption that Panasonic had made the lens smaller to use less pixels on faulty sensors (" If Panny can throw away parts of the sensor output, it can use sensors with defects in those zones") nor do they use "as well as lenses with poor quality in those regions or poor design quality" as the lens is being used all the way to the horizontal edges and stopped down a bit it produces excellent results (much like every other lens in existence does when stopped down).

1 upvote
Timmbits

a lot of comments were made without looking at the diagram,
without looking at the numbers (dimentions in pixels X pixels).
I won't be cruel and call it not smart - I think it was just eagerness to jump in without taking time to check information.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
nick susuki

firstly: sorry for my ignorance. Becasue i am not an expert, and i need good audio for inerriview (portable so no a dr 60d), my question is if the Dr 44wl can be connected wifi to the lx100 (which no have audio output) and rec in sync audio and video.
If not, if there any way to rec audio with an external devices be synced wuth the video wihile shooting with the Lx 100 or the only option is to rec ausio and video separeted and match them in post production?
And if there is no way and must do in post production, whick external portable microphe can u suggest?
I was thinging for the tuscam Dr44WL, but maybe is not the right and vest choice
thank you
nest regards
Nicola

0 upvotes
nick susuki

What i need to to is something classical: video introduction of busieness mixrd with of interview (apple style) of the man who is telling about his profession

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
0 upvotes
Timmbits

I assume that the built-in stereo microphones are too far from the instruments?
why not simply try any standard stereo microphones that plug in?

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
1 upvote
nick susuki

there is no audio plug in.
sorry for late answer. didn't see the notification

0 upvotes
bill nu

I suggest you buy the A6000 with the kit lens and be happy. When you learn the A6000 buy a prime lens and WOW.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
Mike FL

I think so, at least a6000 has flash built in + Flippable LCD + [seems] better EVF, and almost the same size:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#569,535

Comment edited 16 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
ChrisKramer1

I had the Sony A6000 for two months before selling it. It felt horribly cheap and not a patch on my NEX5n; the tilt screen did not sit flush with the back and felt terribly weak; the viewfinder was horrible and I could only used it for framing a shot; getting the card out was annoyingly awkward; I personally found the menu system even worse than on my NEX 5n; image quality was potentially good, but there was a horrible blue cast at auto ISO that I found difficult (if not impossible) to correct properly. Just my subjective opinion, but it feels that the A6000 was made by a different company that made the NEX5n. Adieu Sony. I bought a Canon 700d: ISO and dynamic range are less good but colour reproduction is far more pleasing, focus is way sharper and the handling is great. PLUS all those great lenses on asgoodasnew!

2 upvotes
Leo1950

Has anybody experience with the battery time. I am using the lx100 since November and have to charge the battery almost every time. I switched off nfc and wifi but that didn't help and the flash photos I made can be count on 2 hands. Thanks in advance for helpfull replies

1 upvote
Timmbits

omg that is bad

0 upvotes
Timmbits

maybe you have a defect?
maybe a short circuit somewhere... I would have it checked...
cipa rating is 300 shots

are you using a wifi memory card? that might be contributing

Comment edited 56 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
SSantana75

definitely something wrong with your battery. I have an X30 which is one of the better, if not the best performer in terms of battery life for compacts and my LX100 is not that far off it to be honest.

1 upvote
Davidbailey

this has got to be a record, had my LX100 for less than a week. its the most overpriced paperweight I have ever owned. totally over the top reviews. the image raw or jpg is on par with the RX100 Mk1 its ok if you have been using an iPhone as your main camera. I would imagine that's its even an upgrade, but after selling my X100s thinking that this would be more versatile, was I wrong. the lens is awful wide open not matter what zoom you use. the iso well I suppose its ok if you don't go above 800 but after that its noise city. thank got I sold it to some unsuspecting punter on eBay. I now have a Sony a6000 i,m not going to turn this post into a Sony review, but I am more than happy now.

1 upvote
jackf00

christmass troll

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 2 minutes after posting
5 upvotes
Davidbailey

Are you a troll.
Do you have any constructive comments to make on the LX100. I'd love to hear any from someone else who has owned this or better still who still owns one and why. I'm not loyal to any manufacturer as I have to purchase my cameras with my own hard earned cash. If I buy a camera and its crap that's what I will say. Just because you buy a certain manurfacturers camera doesn't mean that you become part of that company. They sell to you to make money. Period. I had the GF1. That was a fantastic camera for its day. And probably what helped the 4/3 format become what it is today. Happy Christmas. ( Christmass)

1 upvote
ekaton

He is not a troll. I had the LX100 for one week and returned it. MFT & Leica Vario Summilux is a mouthful when it comes to promises. I expected a lot as far as stills IQ is concerned and had to realize that it is decent at best. My RX100III beats it for stills, resolution, lens performance, micro contrast. The controls, handling and EVF of the LX100 are great but if I want to go this big as far as size is concerned, I want better IQ. A GM5 with two or three primes, 15 Pana, 25 Oly, 45 Oly or a Sony 6000 with the inexpensive Sigma primes are in a different league.

3 upvotes
serafko

Davidbailey and ektakon must be very high-tech photo expert to know so much more than all reviewers in the world. Or perhaps payed by Sony.

5 upvotes
Davidbailey

you have just hit it on the head, reviewers are biased maybe they know more than me. but do they know what I want or would be happy with. I doubt it. plus if they slate every product that's the latest all singing and dancing bit of kit. how long do you think they would be an expert reviewer for. not long is my guess.
A good example of the so called expert reviewers, Look how 99% of them said how good the original Fuji X100 was then just read any review on the X100S/ or X100T and see how they slate the original X100 or how the OMD EM5 gets Top marks yet the cheaper and just as good Pen Light 5 hardly gets a mention.
also i,m not an expert my father was a pro photographer but not me.

Happy New Year

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 11 minutes after posting
2 upvotes
jackf00

and now New Year's Troll

1 upvote
SSantana75

Not sure why anyone would expect a MFT sensor to outperform an x-trans, let alone one with a fixed prime lens in front of it. If you sold your x100s expecting better IQ from the LX100 then I'd suggest there's something wrong with you and not the camera. I've owned the RX100 and there's no way it ever produced better images than the LX, more detail in perfect light conditions granted but awful dynamic range in comparison and low light performance at higher ISOs is at least one stop behind. Let's not mention handling as the Sony is terrible in that regard. The LX IQ falls pretty much in the middle of the RX and the X100 but beats both those cameras in terms of performance, AF, shot-to-shot etc.

2 upvotes
Elvines

Has both A6000 and LX100, for photo i would say LX100 wins hands-down in term of Auto focus speed. If you have the kit lens, LX100 IQ is better, however if you have prime on the a6000 it is a different story, but then size is going to be vastly different then.

If you care about IQ and not so much the size, i suggest look at Fuji, that X-A1 is really, cheap, small and IQ would crap all over Sony A6000.

My 2 cents

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 6 minutes after posting
1 upvote
Davidbailey

Personally I think if anyone's just interested in image quality and can live with a fixed 28mm equivalent lens, then the Ricoh GR will take some beating. Half the price of the Fuji X100 T with snappier focus in good light. Not so good in the dark though. and no view finder, but hay who uses a view finder on a compact.

0 upvotes
SSantana75

Lots of people use the EVF on a compact, it's the reason I sold my GR actually, I love the IQ in good light and as you say its lens beats every other compact in sharpness and detail resolving power but it was almost unusable in harsh bright sunny days (at least in Australia where I live) so I could not use it. I still disagree with your comments about he LX though as it's a great camera, maybe overpriced at the moment but definitely better than the Sony RX (which I've also had) not just in stills but particularly in video, the dynamic range of the RX is awful no matter what the numbers tell you, I've had better results with my X30 which also reminds me, the Sony colours are pretty bad and it must always be shot in RAW if you want to create attractive looking images (even their mono renditions are not worth using SOOC) in my opinion.

1 upvote
Davidbailey

The difference is I live in the uk. And the only sun we see is on posters. As for the rx100 I totally agree with you. It was another poster who rated the rx100. I had the original rx100 although at the time it was unchallenged so was without doubt the best compact of the time but without enough changes it has fell behind the competition. I'm not against Panasonic cameras. As I said I loved the GF1. It's just that I was so disappointed with the lx100 I thought I would let fellow photographers know what I thought of it, save them wasting there hard earned cash. As I did when I sold it. The image quality and dynamic range in my opinion was appalling for a micro 4/3 sensor.

0 upvotes
yzhenkai

If pixel is not an issue, this is the camera to go.

Comment edited 11 minutes after posting
1 upvote
Neil Pho

I've thought briefly about an LX100 but then I realised that the Sony A6000 is currently much cheaper, with the kit lens. With a much bigger sensor and interchangeable lens it seems like a no brainer. Why would anyone buy the LX100 instead?

2 upvotes
No 2 Boss of Sony

I just tried both in the store. The Sony A6000 felt much better in the hand, was much more responsive, and the LX100 has this silly zoom button that you find on all cheap compacts. You can't zoom on the lens. A6000 is also cheaper despite coming with 2 lenses which cover a range of 24mm to 300mm. And it has the option to upgrade to heaps of other great lenses, including an unbeatable Samyang 12mm f2 (equivalent to 18mm)

1 upvote
Alfissti

Right but look at the Sony lenses. Both "walk around" lightish zoms are LAMBASTED in reviews. The res chart here looks great for the a6000 but that is with a prime.

No one seems to get it right, Sony small zooms are dreadful, 4/3 not much better, fuji has the zooms but AF is slow on the E series, Pentax has the lenses but no body ... it's nuts, no one seems to get it right.

6 upvotes
Ruecksitzbank

@No 2:
1) You can use the customizable ring on the lens of the LX100 for zooming.
2) The Sony 16-50 kit lens sucks. Got it with the Nex-6 and hardly use it anymore. Instead of getting the Zeiss 16-70/f4 I bought the LX100 and I'm very happy with it. If I need long I take the Nex-6 with 55-210 zoom and for wide the LX100. Perfect combination for me!

4 upvotes
Neil Pho

I bought the A6000. I tried the LX100 in the store and didn't really like it. Though I know that is a superficial test. The A6000 is a nice quick camera to use. The Power Zoom is not as bad as I thought it would be: it's quick, but it is rough. I don't think you could use it for video.

Overall the weak point of the A6000 is the lenses. They are lightweight and junk or big and expensive, and not that great either. I am still waiting for DXOMark to show LX100 lens results.

It's also a pity that Sony don't have a 23mm. 20mm is a bit wide and not that great, though better than the kit lens. It's 9Mpix vs 6Mpix according to DXOMark, that may be 50% more but it's still only 9Mpix!

I guess that now Sony have the FE mount the E mount is pretty much doomed to languish where is it.

0 upvotes
Tjb433

Is there anything that matches this video quality in this price range? DSLR, Camcorder, or anything else?

Besides the FZ1000, that is.

1 upvote
ARCUS1200

I would be interested as well to get an answer on this question, I am interested in 4K filming but I am on a budget. I have seen video's shot with both the FZ1000 and the LX100 and I am impressed with both. The camera's are almost the same price (the FZ1000 a bit more expensive), but still expensive because of the 4K function probably (which will be cheaper in 2015).

0 upvotes
The Squire

The Page 5 explanation of Auto ISO isn't strictly accurate.

You sort-of can set an upper boundary for Auto ISO, but the LX100 is oddly inconsistent about when it respects that setting.

Also, the LX100 is bi-polar when it comes to picking auto shutter speeds, lurching from very conservative (approx. one-over-TWICE-focal-length) to being happy to drop the shutter speed to super sloooooooow without pushing the ISO up (even before it's hit your Maximum Auto ISO choice).

Discussion here: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54951441

Comment edited 50 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
jeffinchiangmai1

I had the same manual controls on my first Olympus in 1972, that's one powerful reason why I bought this camera

2 upvotes
Total comments: 951
12345