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Canon PowerShot G7 X Review

November 2014 | By Jeff Keller and Richard Butler


Preview based on a production Canon PowerShot G7 X

This is where things get interesting! It's over two years since Sony shook up the compact camera market by putting a 1"-type sensor into a genuinely pocketable compact. The Cyber-shot RX100 looked a lot like one of Canon's S-series of high-end compacts but used a sensor 2.8 times larger to offer a substantial increase in image quality.

Amazingly, Sony has remained unchallenged in this field for over two years, in which time it's managed to introduce two more generations of RX100. The RX100 III brought an electronic viewfinder and a more consistently bright (albeit shorter) zoom, helping it climb even further beyond the competition. That essentially unchallenged supremacy ends with the arrival of Canon's PowerShot G7 X.

Like the RX100 III, the G7 X offers a 1"-type, 20MP BSI sensor mated to an F1.8-2.8 zoom starting at 24mm equivalent. The two cameras are also similar in size and offer broadly similar feature sets. Which is great for photographers, because it means the Sony finally has some proper competition.

PowerShot G7 X key features

  • 20MP 1"-type BSI CMOS sensor (13.2 x 8.8mm)
  • 24-100mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 lens
  • Clicking control dial around lens
  • Flip-up rear touchscreen
  • Dedicated exposure compensation dial
  • 3.0" 1.04m dot LCD (720 x 480 pixels)
  • Built-in ND filter
  • Wi-Fi with NFC

Canon is one of the only manufacturers to have consistently offered a dedicated enthusiast compact camera in its lineup, and the arrival of the G7 X means it now offers four: the S120, G16, G7 X and G1 X Mark II, each offering a different balance of size, price and capability. The styling and size of the G7 X make it look like an S-series, but the degree of direct control justifies its G-series moniker.

The camera's combination of touch screen, dedicated exposure compensation dial and clicking control dial around the lens give a high degree of direct control for such a small camera and Canon's iterative, evolutionary approach to camera interfaces, along with a little time spend playing with the camera suggests it should work pretty well.

Meanwhile, the details of the sensor strongly suggest it uses Sony's IMX183CQJ sensor, so could well be able to match the latest RX100 series in terms of image quality. That alone would make it a significant addition to the market. The G7 X is just as small as the Sony but offers much more in terns of direct control.

Then, of course, there's the lens:

The Lens

Given that image quality is all about light capture, the best way of making the most of a large sensor is to mate it with a bright lens. One of the things that helped the RX100 III earn its Gold award was the inclusion of an F1.8-2.8 zoom which meant the camera maintained much more of its large sensor advantage as you zoomed in (rather than stifling it with the F4.9 maximum aperture at telephoto on the first two RX100s). However, this speed boost came at the cost of the lens' range, with Sony restricting the zoom to a 24-70mm equivalent range to keep the camera small.

Consequently, it's interesting to see Canon fit a 24-100mm equivalent lens into the G7 X while also offering a F1.8-2.8 maximum aperture range. And, to paraphrase some hateful web phrasing: we looked at the aperture progression of the G7 X and you won't believe what happened next:

Taking sensor size and aperture into account allows cameras to be compared on a similar basis. This graph shows the focal lengths and aperture ranges offered by each camera, normalized in terms of the 35mm format. This shows how much control over depth of field each camera can offer and gives a rough idea of low-light performance (lower is better).

Clearly Canon has found some weird trick that has let it combine a fast maximum aperture range with a usefully broad zoom range, while keeping the camera size down. Note, on the graph above, how the G7 X's maximum aperture stays bright for much longer than the RX100 III's. They may offer the same range on paper, but at any point from 24-50mm equivalent, the Canon's lens can be kept wider-open than the Sony's, with the difference reaching over 2/3EV at 30mm equiv.

What the above graph should make clear is that the G7 X is amongst the most consistently bright compacts on the market, once sensor size has been taken into account, which should give excellent control over depth-of-field (including at focal lengths useful for classic portraiture) and low light performance. Given the very high likelihood that both cameras use the same (excellent) sensor, it's reasonable to expect the Canon's image quality to be pretty competitive, if its lens is any good.

Only Panasonic's DMC-LX100 is able to offer more light capturing ability and that's a bigger camera with a more restrictive zoom range (though we also think that's hugely appealing, depending on your exact needs and tastes).

Specs compared

The size, sensor, lens spec, and price make Sony's RX100 series the most obvious rivals for the G7 X, but we think the G1 X II should have reason to be worried, too. The big G offers a slightly longer zoom and the ability to add an electronic viewfinder, but the G7 X is considerably smaller, slightly cheaper and can match it in terms of direct access to controls. In aiming for the RX100's crown, the G7 X risks overshadowing Canon's existing champion.

 
Canon PowerShot G7X
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II
Canon PowerShot G1 X II
Effective resolution
20MP
20MP
20MP
12.9MP
Sensor type
(Size 3:2 crop)
1"
(116mm2)
1"
(116 mm2)
1"
(116 mm2)
1.5"
(233 mm2)
Focal length (35mm equiv).
24-100mm
24-70mm
28-100mm
24-120mm
Max aperture
F1.8 - F2.8
F1.8 - F2.8
F1.8 - F4.9
F2.0 - F3.9
Minimum focus distance
5cm - 40cm
5cm - 30cm
5cm - 55cm
5cm - 40cm
ISO range
125 - 12800
125 - 12800
160 - 12800
100 - 12800
Viewfinder
None
Built-in 1.44m dot EVF
Optional 2.76M dot EVF
Optional 2.76M dot EVF
Display
3" LCD (1.04m dot)
touchscreen
3" LCD (1.23m dot)
3" LCD (1.23m dot)
3" LCD (1.04m dot) touchscreen
Max burst rate (JPEG)
6.5 fps
10 fps
10 fps
5.2 fps
Video formats
MOV / MP4
XAVC S / AVCHD MP4
AVCHD / MP4
MP4
Top video frame rate
1080p/60
(34Mbps)
1080p/60
(50Mbps)
1080p/60
(28Mbps)
1080p/30
(24Mbps)
24p support
No
Yes
Yes
No
External controls
Lens, exposure, rear dials; touchscreen
Lens, rear dials
Lens, rear dials
Lens, rear dials; touchscreen
Built-in flash
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Wi-Fi
Yes (with NFC)
Yes (with NFC)
Yes (with NFC)
Yes (with NFC)
Battery life (CIPA)
210 shots
320 shots
350 shots
240 shots

As should be clear, the G7 X doesn't get everything its own way. The Sony RX100 III's video shooting is excellent and there's nothing in the G7 X's specifications or Canon's recent history of compacts to suggest it's going to be able to match the Sony in this respect. The love-it-or-hate-it click-less control dial on the Sony is undeniably useful when it comes to shooting video footage. The Canon's battery life is also pretty disastrous.

The G7 X also has no option for including a viewfinder, whereas the RX100 III has one built-in. This is likely to be a decisive factor for some photographers. But the brighter, longer lens of the Canon, along with its better range of external controls could be a convincing counter-argument.

Updates to review:

September 15, 2014: Introduction, Specs, Body, Features and First Impressions published.
October 21, 2014: Controls, Performance, Shooting Experience & Studio pages added. First Impressions deprecated.
November 11, 2014: Image Quality, Dynamic Range, Studio analysis and Conclusion added.

If you're new to digital photography you may wish to read the Digital Photography Glossary before diving into this article (it may help you understand some of the terms used).

Conclusion / Recommendation / Ratings are based on the opinion of the reviewer, you should read the ENTIRE review before coming to your own conclusions.

We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X, Y, and Z and ideally A, B, and C.

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Strachen

I have not tested all the power shot cameras, but the ones I have owned S80, s90, s110 and for a week an s120 had no laggy menus. That is actually one of the pleasures of these camera's is that they are pretty snappy to use. The downside of these s series though was definitely carrying around those 25g extra batteries. Often wished I had a Sherpa tagging along just to relieve me of the burden.

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Emanuel19861

I don't get it.
It's a compact camera meant for either professionals or enthusiasts both of which supposedly own a DSLR or some other form of main "work horse" device for their serious shooting, yet here you are, both the reviewers and the people in the comments bitching non-stop about the most USELESS features imaginable!

HD video complaints? Really?
Who is going to use such a camera to shoot HD video anyway, and what's more expects it to perform really well?
Must be lots of hidden Stanley Kubricks sitting behind aspiring Hansel Adams'...

Bouncing the flash?
How much light did you expect to bounce off of a compact camera's flash anyway?
Or do you show up on professional shoots with cameras like this one and just ask for a napkin?

Battery life not that good?
Why would you go out and shoot all day with this instead of using your DSLR for serious shooting?

And as a final mental image: imagine someone walking around with a flash unit twice the size of the camera its been mounted on...

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white shadow

You are absolutely right. I have many cameras from a full frame DSLR to a Canon G12 and a Ricoh GR. Yet, I find this camera attractive for casual use in social enviroment. I don't shoot video. So, the video capabilities or the lack of it is irrelevant. What I like is the bright lens, the compact size and a bit of zoom.

For me, its the ideal camera to take to a dinner or wine tasting party when photography is not the main objective. The image quality is definitely better than a phone and its OK if you allow a waiter or a non photographer friend to take a photo. I wouldn't risk giving a more expensive or complicated camera to a non photographer to shoot a snapshot in a social enviroment.

What I would have preferred is they use a bigger capacity battery and perhaps make the body weatherproof like the G3X.

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kazuyaym

For those who use to tild you flash:

How to modify Canon G7x to tilt the flash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXlL8ardXDE&feature=iv&src_vid=cXekZtd1Ts4&annotation_id=annotation_2225887621

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fpink3

This is a fragile camera..
I own the G7X. I got it to to use instead of my Sony RX100 II in some situations. I wanted a camera to take good snaps at rock concerts and other "large audience" events where I'm not close. The Sony's max focal length was slow. The G7X does a better job when the light is low and the subject distant. BUT...
The G7X is NOT "sturdy" when closed. The cover blades AND THE trim ring "protecting" the lens are thin and easily bent and dented. This camera cannot be dropped into a bag without a hard shell case. This is not true of my Sony R100 II or my Ricoh GR or my Canon G1 X. These cameras are impervious to damage when closed up, used in the same manner. My Canon's trim ring and blades bent under normal handling for my other cameras and rendered the camera unusable. About 45 minutes of work with a metal pick finally got the blades and trim ring "flat" enough to restore operation. This is a very poor "real world" design.

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Skinnerrr

"Instead of simply saying "post the photos in a Facebook album that only friends can see" "

=> you mean "that only friends, the NSA and the GCHQ can see"

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Skinnerrr

"Sadly, for those hoping to pull the flash back so it can 'bounce', to give a less harsh result, it's not possible on the G7 X. "

=> no great loss since there wouldn't be much light left anyway after 'bouncing' a flash this small. The guide number is just too low.

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kazuyaym

no great loss? have you try to do it with the Sony RX100? the flash is very small too, but there are a lot of diference

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alexev

Hi
What about NFC connection with smartphone? Is it usable relative to Sony's NFC? Does it work with "Camera Connect" SW by canon?

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Pat Cullinan Jr

Viewfinder type - None.

Argh.

Terrific otherwise.

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dagobah

One minor typo under "Cons": "Focusing can inconsistent" -> "Focusing can be inconsistent"

1 upvote
harihari

Hello,
At the MACRO mode" CANNON S.10; S.120; G.15; G16 ;
always give ' VIGNETING Effect' ,
that give the blurr focus all arround the picture center.
are the G.7X was free from that ?

The second;
At the S.120 , G.16 ;
The full charged batterry willl fully exposed no more than 20 min,
when tbe Wi Fi mode was used.
Now, how about G7X.. ?

I don't want too loose my money again.
THX

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flexys

Hello guys! Since this camera and Sony RX100 II are in the same price range, which one would you buy? I only found a comparison between RX100 III and G7X but they are totally in different price range. Thank you!

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white shadow

Which camera one would buy depends on what your priorities are. The Sony RX100 II has an option for an external flash wherelse the Canon doesn't. The G7X has a better lens aperture for low light. For me, I prefer the Canon user interface. The Canon Raw files are easier to use and has its own DPP software together with the camera. What I don't like about the G7X is the small battery. The G7X would be great if it uses the body design of the Canon G12. I have been using the G12 for about 5 years and I really like the user interface. If the Canon designers can produce a 1" sensor compact camera in a G12 body and improve the performance, it would be great. But, I suppose all of us have to wait.

3 upvotes
User6870844365

I used my G7X for the first time in Florida photographing birds on the beach at Anna Maria Island. I was very pleased with the results especially being able to crop a great deal without loss of detail when printing probably due to the sensor size. I had been using a Canon S95 for a couple of years and the comparison
in taking similar shots to this years was very noticeable although the S95 was a
fine camera overall. I usually pass my Canons down to my son. I will see how the camera performs this Spring here in Kentucky.

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Craig Atkinson

Is there a way to display the equivalent focal length on the screen?, or step, 28, 35, 50, 80...? I think the RX100iii can do this

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Craig Atkinson

ah, got it. Zoom ring set to step...Nice

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manosaa2

Do you know where can be found a language fw update for language option for Canon G7X bought from Japan?

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lacikuss

For those of you that like underwater photography take a look at this link with the new housing for the G7X:

https://youtu.be/QlhHZnqpPNA

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Christoph v Ballmoos

I have compared the usual suspects (RXIII, LX100 and the G7X) and for the first time probably, I did no go for the best image quality, but instead size and usability.
Being a 1DIII and 5dIII shooter, things like touch screen were new to me, but boy, do I like them. It is superfast and I am very happy with the focus. Be sure, to take the small AF window in the settings and be sure to touch the right spot on the screen. If you touch on the border between face and background, there is a good chance that the camera will focus on the background. But is all user error.
Image quality is better then my previous xz-1 and sufficient for 20 cm x30 cm prints, but is not a 5D. The noise is interesting, it shows well in 100%, but almost not, when viewed at normal size.
Best compact I ever had.

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Shiranai

I've also replaced my XZ-1 with this cam, and so far I didn't regret it. I like the tracking, I can fire my external Nissin flash in slave digital mode and it can use a lot higher ISO than the XZ-1 (which was basically only was usable under ISO 800). And the video quality (especially the stabilizer) beats even my old Canon HF100 camcorder.
Got it for a bargain on amazon + get refunds from Canons summer cashback = Perfect.

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BeaniePic

Been using the PS G7X for 2 months. Probably the best compact camera I've used. Touch screen focusing is a dream, quick even in low light. The control ring is what I love most as the images are what I'd expect, being able to control what I want to do so easily. Entered 3 shots into local camera club competition to see how they went against larger format cameras. Came 2nd in 2 classes, no one would believe the Pics came from a compact camera.
Think I've converted the whole club to this camera. But as always it's each to there own, pound for pound this has got to be one of the best compact cameras on the market for the price.

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Neez

Is AF really that good, this review seems to contradict what you're saying. They said the AF is really sluggish and slow, was their a huge bump in firmware?

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BeaniePic

Only seen your reply. No firmware update, straight out of the box. Not sure what the reviewers were using, maybe pre-production. This has been the fastest AF compact camera I've used. Totally in love with it.

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john Weingartner

I've only used it in the store a few times, but autofocus is very good. This is not a D810 ;). For me something like this is better in many ways. I can keep it on me all the time, it does nice 1080 video, and I don't have to worry about theft that much (it's not expensive, and it doesn't look high end). It is the nicest compact I've ever used (maybe the g1x II and LX100 are better). IMHP if you pick up the Sony RX and then the G7x, you'll be like, 'wow, this Canon is well built.'

In the end my solution to carrying an SLR or a compact is going to be the EM5ii with a prime. But $2000 to start is a lot. I love the OMD's.

1 upvote
cberry

I still can't believe that I can hand-hold the G7x at night and shoot steady video with digital zoom and it's stable at concerts.
Phenomenal!
cb

2 upvotes
a kimbo

Haven't seen any mention of the body, in terms of grip. Was inspired enough to go to a shop today to see how it felt in my hand, and I was quite disappointed. Feels like it could easily slip out of my hand. Also found I had to bend my thumb in an odd angle to move the thumb wheel, due to the dual wheels--though I do like having the exp compensation handy like that. A bit of grippy material on the front would go a long way to making this a better camera.

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fuxicek

nice camera, but the price is similar to sony a6000, whaaat?.... dear canon, for next generation, g8X?, g7XX?, please add some automatic panorama feature, evf viewfinder, slow motion mode, better battery life and digital level gauge... I know, you can do it ;)

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kimroy

I had the Sony RX100m3 for a few days and returned that camera. Now i've got de G7X. For me the biggest advantage of the G7X is the far better image stabilitation. Maybe my hands are a little bit shakey, but with the Sony i often could not get sharp results at 1/20'th or 1/30th. Also i find the focus accuracy better in the Canon. But, oh boy, i will miss the electronic viewfinder of the RX100. But, you can't have them all!

6 upvotes
Timmbits

thanks, that is good, pertinent feedback

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Mike FL

DPR did good job on Canon G7X's very POOR AF performance:

>>Looking for the keywords about AF:
"disappointing, unable to lock focus, unreliable AF system"

>>Here is the copy:
"Autofocus

Autofocus speeds on this premium compact are disappointing compared to its peers. The G7 X lags behind its closest competitor - the Sony Cyber-shot RX100 III - and Panasonic's new Lumix DMC-LX100 is also noticeably quicker. Low light performance isn't great, either. Another surprise was how often the G7 X display the 'yellow box of doom', which means that it was unable to lock focus. While more common in low light, it occurred more than one would expect in good light.

Unfortunately the unreliable AF system will send many users to manual focus. Unfortunately, the MF system needs work, as you'll see on our Shooting Experience page."

>>Here is the link:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g7-x

>>>>What people do for unacceptable poor AF?
People return the G7X as seem from Amazon.

Enjoy.

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eCabber

This really concerned me, so I read all the negative reviews on Amazon. There are very few non-5 star reviews. I only found one comment that focus was poor, and one user error understanding how to set focus points. I'm not really finding very POOR AF performance making a mention in people's assessments of this camera.

Interestingly, the user review scores are reversed on B&H where the Canon scores a few points higher than the Sony. I trust those reviewers a little more than Amazon. Especially when you read what people are complaining about.

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steve from indy

goblover, if Canon IS gives you problems better lay off the coffee. never heard a complaint about Canon in camera IS before

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goblover

Ok, maybe I missed it, but is there anywhere in the review that mentioned about image stabilization? That is an important factor for me to know, since my experience with Canon image Stabilization is.. not satisfying. I have to shoot with a minimum shutter speed of 1/30 (that is using touch capture) to have acceptable image. Sometimes has to be faster. Using other compact, with shutter press, I can do with 1/15, sometimes 1/8.

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mattiaswinbladh

"The image stabilization is excellent, most notably for video."
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g7-x/8

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jst13

As a new owner some thoughts and review questions:
-Autofocus in P/S/AV Mode is pretty fast, faster than my RX100m3 and more reliable in low light. Why is dpreview saying AF is slow?. Yes it is slow in Auto Mode...nobody will use Automode on a high end camera but also why is it slow in auto mode and not in normal mode?
- Exposure is one stop faster than my RX, so one stop better high Iso..on the other side one stop worser in showing noise so at last the same.
-in ECO Mode I got 450 to 550 shots with a lot of playing around and some short Videos...not as bad as stated.
-not mentioned in the review: you can zoom in in macro mode what gives quite good macro capabilities.
- at 24mm it seems so that there is a bug in autofocus or the AF ist not very reliable.....some shots are unsharp some pretty sharp...especially at 1.8, may be Canon can fix this with a firmware update......dpreview please test in WW and report this to Canon thanks

Please apologize my bad englisch and typos

Jürgen

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goblover

I use auto mode when I am in situations where I don't have time to mess around with the settings. The main idea here is not 'high end'. It's 'compact'.
But, after using Pana TZ7 and S120, I can say that S120 auto is stupid if not idiot compared to my 6 year old TZ7. With S120, I have to use manual all the time to get the picture I wanted. Even when I use shutter or aperture priority, the camera will sometimes make weird decisions, such as picking high ISO and high aperture number. I suspect even until today Canon never bothered to change that.

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Mike FL

jst13

For "at 24mm it seems so that there is a bug in autofocus or the AF ist not very reliable", the only way is to point AF to a "highest contrast" area in your subject, and lock the AF...

I do not own Canon P&Ss, but Canon's P&S are well known for poor AF performance such as this G7X, and G1X-M2.

People return the cameras for the reasons above.

I would not buy any camera if I know it have AF issue b/c I shot in low-light often.

If a camera missed AF in normal light some time, it will miss most of the AF, if not all, in low-light especially we use larger aperture in low-light. "Larger aperture" + "not too small sensor" does not give you too much room for AF error.

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goblover

Mike FL

Hmm.. My S120 nails focus quickly, but not sharp. I don't know if that's the IS and lens combo thing. I have to use 1/30 shutter speed to get usable shots, but still not too sharp (and I stopped down the aperture, so it's not wide open). Where as my Panasonic TZ7 is comfortably sharp at 1/16 shutter speed. Anyone can tell me, if I can improve the sharpness in some way?

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Mike FL

goblover;

I like to share with you some Photo 101 which you may already know:

>>> "stopped down the aperture" too much will hurt Sharpness b/c it is limited by DIFFRACTION:

You can calculator your cameras "Diffraction Limit" by using tool below:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

>>> "Nails focus quickly" =/= AF Accuracy.

>>> I do not know S120, but Panasonic P&S's OIS is very respectable.

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Mike FL

One more thing, people may be not easy to see AF Accuracy on smaller sensor cameras b/c of DOF, and here is the tool for how to calculate DOF:

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

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goblover

Thanks Mike! Actually, I usually steps down t f2.2 or f2.8, so I guess that is safe. If I have to stop down further, then it is a really crappy lens =P

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axgoli

i own the G7X since last year .. and enjoy it despite some reviews.
But i agree: the Automode is far from making good pictures.
I use 90% the P-mode with Autoiso up to 4000 and sharp+1. Indoor sports with T-mode from 1/160. AutoWB is good , but not in energysaving light, so i use a custommade balance (manual).
If AF fails in Macro, point the object with touch! Hint:
You should use the zoomwip and get the Info of possible mini-maxi distance.
axgoli (german)
p.s. former P&S, i owned: Sony, Panasonic and canon PS100

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bbulkow

New G7x owner here. Here are my hates:

1) JPEG seems very aggressive, giving "soft shots". "auto" mode can't be run in RAW mode, or in superfine (less JPEG). There are moments with a pocket camera where I really want to "shoot from the hip" (the point of a pocket camera!) thus I care about the quality of AUTO mode.

But something seems "wrong" with image quality. I'm forced to dive into RAW, and I will, by gum. I hope the shots look OK in RAW.

2) Wifi mode. There's a long list of obvious improvements that should be made in Canon's app (which applies to all wifi canons). I'd like to view-on-camera with zoom. I'd like to delete from camera. Someone in this forum said "two clicks to sync new shots with Drive" --- I haven't found the recipe yet.

3) Battery life. What I really want is a way to charge the little canon lithium pack from a USB battery (or USB wall charger). I have a second battery on order, which solves the immediate problem.

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nilomanalo

Hi! I just want to clarify your point 1. Do you mean you can't shoot in RAW when you select auto mode?
I owned S120 & I'd like to upgrade on this one. But same thing in S120 no RAW in auto mode.

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bbulkow

New G7x owner here. Here are my likes:

1) I did not experience slow menu or UI. Comments saying the UI is faster or slower than the RX100, I don't really care about the comparison. Some comments say it's unusably laggy. I found no noticable lag at all. I can't explain that, but it's true. Tried the store model: it was fine.

2) 1fps RAW shooting. Not an issue. I'm not a pro photographer, and I take a picture, line up my next picture, and shoot it. 1 fps is fine.

3) EVF. I have glasses. I tried the Sony EVF. It was a blurry mess with and without my glasses. I suppose "people who don't care about EVF" includes everyone wearing glasses, then that's me.

4) Tiltable viewfinder. I heard all this "massive fail: does not rotate beyond 180 degrees". It's a massive win that the thing rotates at all. I have refound the joy of my very first nikon swing-digital, where I can shoot from my lap - great candids. Cat & baby level easily.

5) Touchscreen. Love, especially with swung viewfinder.

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goblover

@bbulkow
Sony Evf: you need to pull the eyecup after you eject the EVF before you can use it, if not, it will be blurry. Have you done that?

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Mike FL

@diopter;

If EVF is still blurry after pull out the eyecup. adjust the "diopter".

BTW: I like SONY-M3's "diopter" adjust ARM better than DIAL which being found in most of the cameras.

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Barbara Ludt

I'm new to list. Just got a G7X to replace my Powershot SX20IS. Only an amateur. I tried a few sample pics today and pleased with macro & various indoor pics; but so far disappointed in SNOW and ACTION stills of animals in motion....which are the primary reasons I wanted a new camera. Never shoot videos. Read in-box & on-line manuals; lots of info on taking pics of "sleeping/smiling babies" (how difficult are those, truly??!) but saw nothing about action stills. Took a few snow shots in AUTO vs. SNOWMAN mode and didn't really see any improvement. Previous XS20 had an auto setting for action stills in auto setting; nothing similar that I can find on this camera. Is there a "G7X for Dummies" or something I can read up on how to take action shots of critters ( clients like to see pics of their pets playing/running while at my place). Any advice about manual settings??? I'm totally an automatic mode amateur--but maybe I can upgrade my skills with expert's advice. Thanks!

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Mike FL

Barbara Ludt;

For "how to take action shots of ... pets playing/running"

You can use/set to Tv (Shutter priority) mode, then use the "Lens dial" to adjust and use faster Shutter speed while shot "pets playing/running".

Here is a short article for how to using Tv mode, I hope it will help you.

http://www.photoplusmag.com/2013/08/09/canon-dslr-tutorial-when-should-you-use-tv-mode/

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goblover

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Vilas7

Lot of features on RX100 III as well as Powershot G7 x has been discussed but I want to know if there is any digital zoom on those cameras and how are the results of those digital zooms as far as movie and photos are concerned indoors for school and church programs. I may be shooting from a distance of 30 to 50 feet and the optic zoom may not be sufficient. Does any one know the quality of digital zoom on each camera?

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the-bunker

Hi - I have the G7X & the RX100 Mk1. I took some pics at a concert recently with the Canon & it fared better than previous efforts with the Sony - mainly I think for 2 reasons:
i) The lens is brighter at the long end - f2.8 (bit soft but overall better)
ii) Autofocus worked better - probably because of the brighter image from a wider aperture.
In terms of image quality using digital zoom - I would still pick the Canon because of my comments above, plus the Canon retains ability to use autofocus points, whereas the Sony only has 1 focus point (the whole frame !).
Reportdely the RX100Mk3 has better IQ & video functions, but imo the max tele of 70mm on the Sony vs the Canon's 100mm will make a big difference for the use you describe - so I would choose the Canon.

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chadley_chad

@ the-bunker : I'm considering either the Canon or Sony MII to replace my Mark I Sony. I tried the Canon today and it seemed noticeably slower on shot to shot speeds (using the same class 10 card). Can I ask your feelings on this ... I love the look of the canon (spec wise) over the MII sony but the ability to focus quickly and take repeated shots is important to me. Can I ask your thoughts on this?

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the-bunker

Sorry to take so long to reply. I did some comparison against the Sony RX100 MkIII at an Airport recently & the Sony did better than the Canon. However, the Canon has touch to focus/shoot - which is great for fast shooting, just the cycle time before the next shot can be taken is not as fast as the Sony. Hope this helps

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chadley_chad

Thanks for coming back. After testing myself I agree, but I still have the Canon pegged as my next purchase!

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Andy Palmer

Just suggested that my friend buys this for his wife for Christmas. The brief was an easily portable camera that can be used for a variety of purposes, but with a focus on portraits / action shots of their young daughter. Oh, and around 400 GBP maximum (so a little over budget). I went for this one because (1) it will produce a much better quality of image that the mobile phone she is currently using; (2) ability to take excellent portraits at all focal lengths with the large apertures; (3) a useful zoom length that gives some proper telephoto without over-reaching, but really useful wide angles; (4) she doesn't need a viewfinder. I think the start-up time issue sounds of minimal importance and the only concern is the AF issue in low light. Anyway, should I have suggested something else for the price? I couldn't see anything better ...

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Eliott1963

When my Sony RX100 v. I broke, I thought about getting the Sony RX100 vIII, but I was taken aback by the downsize to the 24-70 lens. I really would not use the pop up eye piece, although that sounds very good for many I know.

I really liked the shooting experience of the RX100 vI. The camera was fast and the pictures in RAW were excellent. I had never had a better pocket camera.

I went with the Canon G7x because of the 24-100, f 1.8 - 2.8 lens specs. At first the shooting experience seemed awkward, but after a month with this camera, I feel very comfortable. RAW output is exceptional. I take a lot of portrait and the lens specs were the only option compared to the Sony. A $700 pocket camera is quite a luxury - I feel that the most important feature, the lens and image quality outweigh the better shooting experience of the Sony. If the Sony had a 24 - 100, f 1.8 - 2.8 lens, I would have bought it.

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Hombrito

IMAGE STABILIZATION. IMAGE STABILIZATION. IMAGE STABILIZATION. One of the key useful features on a compact (or in fact any camera) in low light situations. I know for a fact that image stabilization on RX100 does not exist. Not sure if it's still the case for RX100 III although I suspect it is.

Review should have included the measurement of effectiveness of image stabilization on R7 X, and comparison to direct competition (RX100 III).

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Carouge

The Sony RX100 has an optical stabilization system. RX II and RX III have similar systems. The best comparison for me is the shooting experience.

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Hombrito

Someone tested RX100 III, which has improved IS vs. I and II:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3690539

@Carouge: image stabilization in I exists on paper only. Read comments in the above thread.

Can anybody try G7 X IS using the pdf template provided?

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OrlandoPete

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PhilOlenick

I have a G12 and have refused to get a newer Canon pocketable because of Canon's apparent decision to confine fully articulating screens to its DSLRs. (I don't consider the G1 X pocketable.) I might settle for a flip-up screen in exchange for a larger sensor and faster lens, however.

My question is about the criticism of the G7 X for slow operation, how does it compare in this respect with the G12?

Isn't there a setup option to disable animations entirely? If not, it should be added in a firmware upgrade - particularly if Canon gets a lot of flack about them.

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BillJ

Vs the only real competition, Sony RX100 III, for me for portraits the 100mm max zoom is key. Despite complaints, the auto-focus doesn't feel slow to me; it focuses in light so low I can hardly see myself. Yes, sometimes it fails to focus, but touch a spot on the screen to focus on and you're on your way (a great reason to choose the G7x over the Sony). The touch screen is undervalued by reviewers. Image quality is magnificent. Key to me is low-light photography without flash. The 1" sensor and the bright lens combine to allow incredible low-light photos that turn out brighter than I see with my eyes. Build quality is great: try to wiggle the lens barrel, the G7x is nicely machined. Battery life is sad; you won't make it a day with heavy use, so carry a spare. WiFi connection was a major consideration. Two clicks I am backing up to Google Drive , sending only pix that were not sent before. Two clicks and a photo is posted on Facebook. Connect directly to smartphone just as easily.

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Luis Fer

I wanted to buy a good compact and quickly ended up in the discussion Sony vs Canon. I am not a photo expert, but I do like to fiddle with commands and wanted to learn more about the technicalities of taking pictures. And, it had to be a pocketable machine. I agonized at it and ended up buying the Canon. The picture quality is amazing. It shoots really well under low-light conditions. The commands are easy to change. It reacts fast to auto-focus. I thought the touch screen wasn't that relevant but now I just love it, especially to select focus area and chose settings quick. That feature would make me today prefer the Canon over the Sony. The titlable screen is also great. Minus: It is difficult to manually focus on the manual settings (which I won't use that much anyway). The battery time is very bad. I checked the viewfinder on the Sony (the biggest selling point) and wouldn't see myself using it, as it is small in such a small camera and it felt uncomfortable.

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km25

I do love this camera, but. Buy an extra battery and the vast majorty of simple users will love it. It does movies and most of all gives nice pictures. The price of this camera in a few months will be under $600.00. High priced for the simple user, but low when compared to Sony and Pansonic. For these people nice pictures, with movies vs cost and maybe size. All else, who cares EVF, camera lay out. These simple users use there phones for pics.

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Mike FL

It is $524 USD from amazon.jp regarding to "The price of this camera in a few months will be under $600.00.".

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B00NM0W8HS/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1416814947&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+g7x&condition=new

Base on exchange rate:
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator/?from=JPY

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jonrobertp

Best pocket camera hands down. Period. The biased pundits are out to lunch. Amateurs pretending to know irrelevant stuff. None of the critics know how to make images of quality that sell in the marketplace but think they know ? Gimme a break. Get some coffee.

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Boky

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cheorge

Nice review, thanks. I wrote also a review for the G7 X:
http://j.mp/1qMTL3i

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Alexander Di

What's the point of your rating system?

None of you would buy this camera. It falls apart in "performance, usability, and battery life," and excels at things any large-sensor camera can do. And yet, somehow it's worth 77% and a Silver award?

Here's a thought exercise for you. Take the same camera and cement the lens cap to it. What rating then? Would you still give it 50% for the build quality and screen UI, despite an utter inability to fulfill its intended purpose? Do all features rate the same in importance?

That's what this review looks like: we hate it, but here's some points for what it could have been. Oh, and the bottom of our scale is actually 75.

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T3

Is Canon ever going to produce a camera that can do panorama sweep? I really enjoy this feature, especially in a compact camera. So many other cameras have this feature, but not Canon. I guess when it comes to panorama sweep, Canon sees it as impossible.

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Jim Hayward

I have an A99. Panorama is available. Panorama is the hands down most worthless feature of this camera.

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Dougbm_2
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Segaman

And Canon bashers are on the loose.
Bla bla bla.......

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damian5000

Reviewers have shot 370+ images on a charge. Other reviewers were able to shoot 70 min 1080p60 on a single charge. The rest of the negatives are mostly nitpicks in comparison to the positives. The exposure comp dial is hard to turn? Come on... Be serious.

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kangoo1707

CIPA rating has been a industrial standards. If a camera with CIPA rating of 210 shots can go to 370 shots, then a camera with better CIPA rating can go even further.

Is 1fps RAW shooting a nitpicks? That's the dealbreak for a lotta people.

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Joseph Black

I can get roughly 2,000 shots using my G1 X, LCD switched off, AF set on manual, and paired with a timer remote. Handy for time lapse photography.
The CIPA standard might imply that if one camera can beat it, so can another, but in actual usage if someone gets 500 images on a charge and that fills their threshold and goal, then that makes the CIPA standard and how others may perform a waste of a statistic.
And I'd imagine that those of us shooting RAW are well away of the speed and don't care because we don't need anything faster. Play up this feature or that feature of another camera, but what it comes down to is the individual usage case.
If you're going to blow $700 on a camera, then buy a second battery and when you put your camera away at some point during the day go ahead and switch the battery. Who is taking this thing to the football game in the hopes of getting high frame rater captures of the action? Only people who don't know how to read, that's who.

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T3

You have to keep in mind that some of consider exposure compensation an important control parameter (which is probably why Canon dedicated such a prominent control ring to this feature!), and so if the interface for this important control parameter makes it less easy to use, that's not just a "nitpick". If a company puts physical controls on a camera, they should at least operate well. It's attention to these kinds of details that can make the difference between a truly enjoyable camera to use, and one that you wish you hadn't bought. So basically, how well the controls operate is not a "nitpick".

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Joseph Black

When the G1 X was released, everyone complained about the video record button being poorly placed and the shutter release being too soft. Personally it took me about a week to get used to the controls of the camera because every camera is different. People will either get used to or the won't.....or they'll refuse to acknowledge one of the greatest human traits is the ability to adapt and they'll find something that requires the least adaptation possible no matter what they have to give up in order to get it while using a little cognitive dissonance in the place of any real reasons.

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magneto shot

lx100 thank u

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illiterate

Have dpreview contacted Canon about the slow 1fps RAW performance? It is 2014, such slow performance is no way by design, it is a bug, a defect, that Canon need to address.

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chj

It's not a bug, Canon's compact division has not gotten the memo that 1 fps shooting is a bit behind acceptable. Just a bit. It's the number one reason I won't buy this camera.

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Rishi Sanyal

It's not just the Raw performance that's slow, it's the general operational speed of the camera. The menus themselves are so slow it's a pain to change any settings (presumably b/c of the animations). You literally can't even dismiss the menu sometimes (e.g. if it's in the middle of an animation, or the camera's 'catching up' to your fast button presses), which you can see in our video of Jeff having to press the Func. button multiple times to dismiss it here. This is a large part of why we say the performance of the camera is slow.

So, given the overall sluggishness of the camera, I don't think any of us felt the 1fps Raw performance was a 'bug'. It's just the overall feel and nature of the camera: it's just not snappy. Especially in comparison to the RX100 III.

I wanted to love this camera, even initially thought of replacing my RX100 III w/ it (b/c of the touch screen). But after using it, it actually made me like the RX100 III even more.

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AmateurSnaps

That's a lot of money for a camera with poor performance and hopeless focusing :(

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Luis Fer

Hi. I have this camera and I have no idea what it means hopeless focus. Maybe for some very specialized things? On the day to day operation I see no hopeless focus at all.

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brownei

another half built camera with no view finder; and a swivel screen like the G12 is so much more versatile imo. Sounds so close to another a great camera from Canon but this one hasn't got my name on it :(.

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Jennyhappy2

Great to see Canon have a competitor to the RX100 II...now here is hoping they come out with a G7X III or G9X to rival the RX100 III. For many, no viewfinder means no-go and lack of XAVC-S videos.

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jonrobertp

There is no rival to the latest Canon. The G7X is far ahead of Sony....not serious competition.
Maybe Sony can come up with something new to try to rival the G7X. It might make it interesting.
But maybe they are not able to match the lens range nor the touchscreen at this time.

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Rishi Sanyal

@jonrobertp: I think you've got it backwards. It's Canon that tried to come up with something new to rival the excellent RX100-series.

For some - particularly those that absolutely require the extra reach of 70-100mm and/or love a touchscreen - Canon's G7 X offers a nice competitor to the RX100 III.

But in most other respects, it unfortunately fails to meet the performance of the RX100 III. No EVF, worse lens sharpness across the field at 24-50mm, lack of bounce flash, worse movie specs, less control over dynamic range compensation options, unusable manual focus, worse overall shooting speed & performance (the menus are a bear to work with b/c of operational speed), etc.

Ergonomics are highly subjective, but I personally still prefer the RX100 III here as I can easily use it w/ one hand. I can't do that with the G7 X b/c the lens & EC dials are too difficult to turn.

To say the RX100 III is 'not serious competition' when it was arguably the inspiration for the G7 X is just silly.

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azalea

Rishi, nicely explained, but you're not going to talk any sense into this troll. Just check what bull* he's been talking about in RX100III review and the forum and you'll know more lol

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Luis Fer

Jennyhappy2, I am very curious about the need for a viewfinder. I am not a serious photographer, but I think I am the exact customer for these type of machines. I did try the Sony viewfinder and tried to understand whether I would get anything from it. And my answer after some minutes dealing with it was that I would not use it at all on the daily basis, so didn't quite see it as an advantage. Very curious why people are so keen on this, for the sort of customer that would buy this machine. (I might be missing something, maybe).

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jonrobertp

This cam is better than the latest Sony. Pop up VF vs touch screen is no contest. optical VF is not a big deal any longer...passé. Lens ---Canon wins easily.
The Sony got 2% higher score because it came out first. Had this cam come out ahead of the Sony it would be the Gold recipient and the Sony the silver. Just a matter of a few months timing.

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jonrobertp

This is the very best camera for any pocket on the market today.

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Jennyhappy2

Great to have choices and each individual decide what best serves their needs. Whats good for one is bad for another and vice versa. 😀 Some love reviews while others avoid them. Everyone should do what works best for them and not judge someone else simply because of a different view.

Life is all about choices...👣👣👣👣

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kangoo1707

"Lens - Canon wins easily"

It's better at 71-100mm, apparently

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Rashkae

Yup, no contest indeed, the pop-up VF is BY FAR a better choice than a touch screen. Optical VF? The sony is a full EVF. Lens? The Sony is sharper. Battery life? Sony. Focus speed and accuracy (far more important than a touch screen)? Sony. Performance? Sony.

Sorry, there's no way the Canon is better than the Sony.

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andreaminoia
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Rishi Sanyal

Actually, the Sony RX100 III got a 5% higher score, not 2%.

Sony RX100 III's lens is significantly better than the G7 X on the wide end (actually, from 24-50mm), in terms of sharpness across most of the field. We'll throw up some lens comparisons soon to back this up.

The RX100 III's video is also better, b/c of its XAVC S 50Mbps mode (not to mention the option for 24p). Then there's the EVF, the bounce flash, the lens dial that's actually easy to turn, etc.

The G7 X did appear to have better still image (optical) stabilization. And the touchscreen is great for quick AF on your subject of interest. And the extra reach of the lens is nice for those who deem it important. The faster aperture for 25-50mm focal lengths would've been nice if the lens were actually as sharp as the RX100 III's over those focal lengths, hence it's hard to count this as much of an advantage.

So it's great to have options. But let's not be unrealistic as to claiming which camera is 'better' or 'best'.

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Luis Fer

Rashkae, the touchscreen is absolutely great on the daily basis. I bought the Canon not so sure it was the right choice. Since I don't have the Sony I don't know which is better. But, the touchsreen is absolutely great. I don't see myself take pictures, change settings, and choosing focus points without that feature. As for the viewfinder, I tried it at ta shopt and didn't see the great advantage at it.

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moji

Too expensive!

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Ricardo Alves

Just notice that besides the ON/OFF bottom, there are two other bottoms that can turn On the camera, the Playback and the Mobile Device Connection (MDC) bottoms. The Playback takes about 3 min before automatically turning off again. The MDC lights the LCD indefinitely if nothing is done...

If there's no way to prevent this (so far I haven't found the way in the camera menus), for me it's quite an issue, cause it can happen quite easily when the camera is packed inside a tight bag and will drive your battery to zero. Hope Canon can fix this via Firmware update.

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Jennyhappy2

Kind of funny no one has really mentioned or dare post the link for this review in the Canon forum LOL. Guess because DPReview indicated the G7X is:

The Final Word

The PowerShot G7 X has stirred up a lot of excitement in the camera world, with Canon opening up the category that has been dominated by Sony. Canon went with the excellent Sony 20MP BSI-CMOS sensor and added a longer (yet still fast) lens that is great for portraiture. Sadly, where the G7 X falls apart is performance, usability, and battery life, as discussed above.

While the G7 X earns a silver award for its ambitious lens and image quality, Canon has a lot of work to do in the performance department in order to earn our top reward. "

There is always the GX7 II, though Canon seems to be on a continued pattern here that started with the G1X II.

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pacnwhobbyist

But what's your personal experience with the camera?

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Joseph Black

One can discuss a review without posting a link, especially when (brace yourself for this) you're discussing the review in the forums that belong to the exact same site. Fortunately there are some people savvy enough about this interwebs google machine to know that the front page has several direct links to the review or one with the intelligence of a kindergartener can get to the review with maybe two or three clicks in a few months when the newness wears off.
LOL
We're not all link posting, review quoting, DxO worshipping automatons like those who needlessly spend their time attacking cameras they dislike rather than using cameras they already own. We're also not all constantly posting about every new camera release like it's the first camera we've ever seen in our entire lives while, at the same time, relating those new cameras to previously released cameras in an effort to bash something we've made clear we have no intention of buying and really intensely dislike (see: mirror).

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Joseph Black

And now for the part you will choose to call a personal attack despite it's obvious truth: you are one of the egregious abusers of these forums, or any forum, I have ever seen. Whether you are a man or a woman you have chosen a female user name that sounds sweet and silly to garner sympathy when you claim to have been attacked (which is always although your innocently worded posts are meant to pester, irritate....or maybe they are innocently and genuinely a result of someone who simply lacks consideration for others and has an extreme inferiority complex requiring constant validation, not to mention a painful case of confirmation bias). You are the very definition of a forum troll; that's not an opinion, that is an objective, empirical observation that can be confirmed with a very small amount of research.

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aerorail

ive pointed out many times in the past jhappy is nothing but a troll and knows nothing jumping from forum to forum stirring up trolliness

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